Madison Mortgage Services Inc.
Company NMLS # 1862796
What happens when a brokerage invests in its people and their voice? 🎙️
You get conversations like this.
Ben Lavender (LO) sits down with Jason Orsini (Realtor) for a conversation that goes deeper than transactions — touching real estate strategy, life philosophy, and the high-performance mindset it takes to stay ahead.
Watch the full podcast on Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcast and iHeart podcast.
Here is a hill I will die on.
Wholesale is the best place for the majority of loan originators.
I have been on both sides. I know retail. I know wholesale. I know how it feels to operate inside each model.
If you want flexibility, better pricing, broader product mix, and the ability to scale without scared underwriting, the broker channel wins.
Every time.
Are there exceptions? Of course. There are always niche situations.
But if you are serious about building a business that can consistently do 10, 15, 20 loans a month, you need optionality. You need to be able to shop. You need to be able to pivot. You need to be able to win.
Retail can feel comfortable.
Wholesale gives you leverage.
And leverage is what allows a great loan officer to become elite.
This is not about trends. It is not about hype. It is about structure.
Your platform either expands your earning potential or caps it.
Choose carefully.
🎙️ What does it take to go from living in your car to becoming one of the most respected real estate agents on Long Island?
In this episode of the Madison Podcast, Ben Lavender sits down with Jason Orsini, real estate agent with Douglas Elliman who has nearly two decades in the business. Jason is widely known for winning deals in one of the most competitive housing markets in the country.
➡️ Full episode drop this Wednesday!
🎧 You can listen to the full episode on YouTube, Apple podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen.
If I had to start over tomorrow with no company and no brand, here is exactly what I would do.
I would join a strong broker platform immediately while I filed my own licensing.
And then I would focus on one thing.
Revenue.
The first 90 days would be about building pipeline and getting to 15 or 20 loans a month as fast as possible. I know how to do it. I have helped plenty of loan officers do it.
The playbook is not complicated. It requires focus and discipline.
At the same time, I would start assembling a small, sharp team. You cannot sustainably hit 15 to 20 without support. You need operations. You need structure. You need accountability.
But revenue comes first.
Too many people overthink the rebuild. They start with logos, branding, websites, business cards.
None of that matters if you do not have loans in the pipeline.
There is something freeing about knowing that if everything disappeared tomorrow, I could still originate. I could still build. I could still execute.
That confidence only comes from understanding the fundamentals of this business.
If you stripped away your company today, would you still know how to win?
Most loan officers probably see me as all business.
Driven. Intense. Focused on scale.
What they might not know is that if I could wake up every day and play golf, I probably would.
I am a golf junkie.
All of my real estate entities start with the acronym GRP. It stands for Golf Retirement Planning. The idea was simple. Buy enough real estate over my career so that by 60, I can just play golf every day.
I am 46. I have 14 years to see if I can pull that off.
Ambition and lifestyle are not opposites. They are connected.
I love building. I love the challenge of growing Madison. I love helping loan officers scale. I wake up excited to work.
But I also think long term.
Health matters. Longevity matters. Energy matters. What is the point of building wealth if you cannot enjoy it?
One of my goals over the next couple of years is to get in the best shape of my life. Lose 50 pounds. Make sure that if I do retire to the course at 60, I can actually walk it.
You can be intense about business and still have a personal vision.
In fact, you need one.
What are you building toward?
The most expensive mistakes I have made in business were not bad hires.
They were bad tech decisions.
Early on, we would buy technology because it looked impressive. We would convince ourselves it was the future. Then we would try to bend our process around the software.
That is backwards.
We spent a lot of money and a lot of time implementing tools that did not align with how we actually wanted to operate. Adoption would suffer. Execution would suffer. And then we would rip it out and start over.
The lesson was simple.
Do not build your business around tech.
Build your process first.
Design the exact way you want loans to flow. Define your operational standards. Clarify your expectations. Then build or customize technology to support that process.
If I could go back, I would have invested earlier in systems we could truly control and customize, like Salesforce, and built around a clear operational vision.
The interesting part is that the next 24 months will change everything again. AI is compressing what used to take six months into six days.
You will still make mistakes. I still do.
But as long as you are learning and getting better, that is the cost of doing business.
That is tuition.
The question is not whether you will make mistakes.
It is whether you will extract the lesson fast enough.
Ten years ago I would have told you being a mortgage banker was the superior model.
I was wrong.
I used to sit across from brokers and position them as middlemen. I believed retail had the advantage. Control the process. Control the margins. Control the underwriting.
What I did not understand then is what I understand now.
If you want to do 2 or 3 loans a month, almost any platform can work.
If you want to do 10 plus consistently, scale matters. Margin matters. Flexibility matters. Optionality matters.
The wholesale broker channel, especially on a flat fee model, gives you leverage that retail simply cannot match. More product. Faster execution. Real pricing power. The ability to win deals without begging your credit committee.
You do not know what you do not know.
It took me years to fully appreciate the broker model. I have now been on both sides. And I can say with conviction that for the majority of serious loan originators who want to scale, wholesale is the better platform.
That belief is not theoretical. It is built on experience.
If you are trying to build a real business, not just close a few deals, the platform you choose is not a small decision.
It is everything.
If you are rethinking your model, let’s talk.
I love the 100 percent commission flat fee model.
It took time to fully appreciate how powerful it is.
It’s better for loan officers and better for consumers.
You keep your commission.
You control your margin.
You don’t lose deals because pricing is inflated.
You close more transactions with less friction.
Every loan officer who has joined us is making more than they were before.
Don’t take my word for it.
Call them. Ask them directly.
The answers will speak for themselves.
Happy birthday to our Loan Officers + Admin!! 🎉 We love celebrating Team Madison birthdays with ice cream cake!
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If you’re at a retail IMB, you are getting margined out.
That’s math.
Retail margins are higher than wholesale margins. That’s how they cover overhead.
Your clients pay more.
You lose deals to brokers operating at lower margins.
Broker market share is rising for a reason.
Lower margins.
More flexibility.
More competitive pricing.
If you haven’t looked seriously at the wholesale side, you should.
The shift is already happening.
Your pipeline doesn’t change from one big move. It changes from what you do consistently.
The truth is, most of us are closer to the closing table than we think. What feels like being stuck usually isn’t a lack of opportunity…it’s inconsistency in the actions that actually move a deal forward.
The ability is there. The deals are there. But without the discipline to follow through, day after day, nothing really compounds.
Let’s simplify it. Follow up on the conversations you already have. Take a second look at the deals in front of you. Ask better questions and stay with it a little longer.
It doesn’t have to be perfect; it just has to be consistent.
At the end of the day you’re closer than you think.✨🏡
We don’t just close deals — we step in and save them.
Last year, Lauren was in contract on a home… until her financing fell apart. The lender couldn’t get her approved in time, she ran out of contract, and lost the opportunity to buy the house.
This time, her attorney @mike_thelawyer, Michael Scarpati brought her to our team and our LO, @tomer_ahituv took it from there.
New strategy. Better structure. No guesswork.
So when Lauren went back into contract, everything was already aligned — and it showed: 6 DAY CLEAR TO CLOSE.
Smooth. Clean. Executed. Same buyer. Same goal. Completely different result.
That’s the difference when the deal is built right from day one.
Huge congratulations to @ellebruno on your new home 🏡
Great teamwork with:
@mmaguire26 (Mark Maguire) Listing Agent
@momrealtor_jian (Jian Zhong) Buyers Agent
There’s something powerful about being in a real office.
Energy.
Collaboration.
Speed.
The world shifted remote. I understand that.
But culture is built in proximity.
When you can walk over, review a file together, and solve problems in real time, it changes the environment.
Hybrid can work.
But having a real home base creates cohesion and momentum.
That matters more than people think.
11-day CTC with an incredible team! 🙌
Amazing collaboration from start to finish between Team Lead, Tomer Ahituv with LO Sunny Sehjal, Buyer’s Agent, Aman Gaubaria, and Listing Agent, Chris Hubbard.
Teamwork like this is what makes it happen. Huge congratulations to our clients on becoming homeowners in Wantagh, NY! 🏡✨
One of the biggest advantages of being a broker is product depth.
You’re not limited to one version of a program.
Different lenders make different exceptions.
Complex scenarios are where experience and resources matter.
We routinely get calls from loan officers whose banks denied files after months.
Or borrowers stuck somewhere else who need real execution.
Not all broker shops are equal.
Execution is everything.